IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES REVIEW

BOARD MEETING

The Recommended Action indicates the staff recommendation at the time the agenda was prepared. That

recommendation does not limit the County of Monterey Historic Resources Review Board (HRRB) alternative

actions on any matter before it.

In addition to attending in person, in the Thyme Room which is located in the County of Monterey Government

Center at 1441 Schilling Place, South 2nd Floor, Salinas, CA 93901, public participation will also be available

by ZOOM and/or telephonic means:

You may participate through ZOOM. For ZOOM participation please join by computer audio at:

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PUBLIC COMMENT: Please submit your comment (limited to 250 or less) to the HRRB Clerk at

hrrbhearingcomments@co.monterey.ca.us. In an effort to assist the Clerk in identifying the agenda item relating

to your public comment please indicate in the Subject Line, the meeting body (i.e. Historic Resources Review

Board Agenda) and item number (i.e. Item No. 10). Your comment will be placed into the record at the

Historic Resources Review Board meeting.

Public Comments received by 2:00 p.m. on the Wednesday prior to the HRRB meeting will be distributed to

the HRRB via email.

Public Comment submitted during the meeting can be submitted at any time and every effort will be made to

read your comment into the record, but some comments may not be read due to time limitations. Comments

received after the agenda item will be made part of the record if received prior to the end of the meeting.

ALTERNATIVE FORMATS: If requested, the agenda shall be made available in appropriate alternative

formats to persons with a disability, as required by Section 202 of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990

(42 USC Sec. 12132) and the federal rules and regulations adopted in implementation thereof. For information

regarding how, to whom and when a person with a disability who requires a modification or accommodation in

order to participate in the public meeting may make a request for disability-related modification or

accommodation including auxiliary aids or services or if you have any questions about any of the items listed on

this agenda, please call the Monterey County Housing and Community Development at (831) 755-5025.

INTERPRETATION SERVICE POLICY: The Monterey County Historic Resources Review Board invites

and encourages the participation of Monterey County residents at its meetings. If you require the assistance of

an interpreter, please contact the Monterey County Housing and Community Development Department located

in the Monterey County Government Center, 1441 Schilling Place, 2nd Floor South, Salinas - or by phone at

(831) 755-5025. The Clerk will make every effort to accommodate requests for interpreter assistance.

Requests should be made as soon as possible, and at a minimum 24 hours in advance of any meeting of the

Historic Resources Review Board.

AVISO IMPORTANTE SOBRE LA PARTICIPACIÓN EN LA REUNIÓN DEL CONSEJO DE

REVISIÓN DE RECURSOS HISTÓRICOS

La medida recomendada indica la recomendación del personal en el momento en que se preparó la agenda.

Dicha recomendación no limita las acciones alternativas del Consejo de Revisión de Recursos Históricos del

Condado de Monterey sobre cualquier asunto que se le haya sometido.

Además de asistir en persona, en la sala de conferencia Thyme, que se encuentra en el Centro de Gobierno del

Condado de Monterey en 1441 Schilling Place, sur segundo piso, Salinas, CA 93901, la participación del

público tambien estará disponible por ZOOM y/o medios telefónicos:

Puede participar a través de ZOOM. Para la participación de ZOOM, únase por computadora en:

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O para participar por teléfono, llame a cualquiera de estos números a continuación:

1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)

1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)

1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)

1 929 205 6099 US (New York)

1 253 215 8782 US

1 301 715 8592 US

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se le solicite.

COMENTARIO PÚBLICO: Por favor envíe su comentario (limitado a 250 palabras o menos) al personal del

Consejo de Revisión de Recursos Históricos del Condado de Monterey al correo electronico:

hrrbhearingcomments@co.monterey.ca.us. En un esfuerzo por ayudar al personal, indique en la línea de asunto,

la audiencia de la reunión (por ejemplo, la agenda del Consejo de Revisión de Recursos Históricos del

Condado de Monterey) y el número de punto (por ejemplo, el No. de agenda 10). Su comentario se incluirá en

el registro de la audiencia del Consejo de Revisión de Recursos Históricos del Condado de Monterey.

Los comentarios públicos recibidos antes de las 2:00 PM el miércoles anterior a la reunión del Consejo de

Revisión de Recursos Históricos del Condado de Monterey se distribuirán a los miembros por correo

electrónico.

El comentario público enviado durante la reunión se puede enviar en cualquier momento y se hará todo lo

posible para leer su comentario en el registro, pero algunos comentarios pueden no leerse debido a limitaciones

de tiempo. Los comentarios recibidos después del tema de la agenda se incluirán en el registro si se reciben

antes de que finalice la junta.

FORMATOS ALTERNATIVOS: Si se solicita, la agenda se pondrá a disposición de las personas con

discapacidad en formatos alternativos apropiados, según lo exige la Sección 202 de la Ley de Estadounidenses

con Discapacidades de 1990 (42 USC Sec. 12132) y las reglas y regulaciones federales adoptadas en

implementación de la misma. Para obtener información sobre cómo, a quién y cuándo una persona con una

discapacidad que requiere una modificación o adaptación para participar en la reunión pública puede hacer una

solicitud de modificación o adaptación relacionada con la discapacidad, incluidas las ayudas o servicios

auxiliares, o si tiene alguna pregunta sobre cualquiera de los temas enumerados en esta agenda, llame al

Departamento de Vivienda y Desarrollo Comunitario del Condado de Monterey al (831) 755-5025.

POLÍZA DE SERVICIO DE INTERPRETACIÓN: Los miembros del Consejo de Revisión de Recursos

Históricos del Condado de Monterey invita y apoya la participación de los residentes del Condado de

Monterey en sus reuniones. Si usted requiere la asistencia de un interprete, por favor comuníquese con el

Departamento de Vivienda y Desarrollo Comunitario localizado en el Centro de Gobierno del Condado de

Monterey, (County of Monterey Government Center), 1441 Schilling Place, segundo piso sur, Salinas – o por

teléfono al (831) 755-5025. La asistente hará el esfuerzo para acomodar los pedidos de asistencia de un

interprete. Los pedidos se deberán hacer lo mas pronto posible, y a lo mínimo 24 horas de anticipo para

cualquier reunión del Consejo de Revisión de Recursos Históricos del Condado de Monterey.

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directed to corresponding Staff Report

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11:30 A.M. - CALL TO ORDER

Chair John Scourkes called the meeting to order at 11:32 a.m.

ROLL CALL

Present: John Scourkes, Salvador Muñoz, Kellie Morgantini, Michael Bilich, Judy

MacClelland, Sheila Lee Prader, Belinda Taluban

Absent: None.

Staff: Phil Angelo (Secretary), Elizabeth Vasquez (Clerk)

Secretary, Phil Angelo, reviewed the Zoom meeting protocols.

PUBLIC COMMENT

None.

AGENDA ADDITIONS, DELETIONS AND CORRECTIONS

Staff has a correction to the draft Meeting Minutes from January 5, 2023. In the

section roll call in states HRRB member Sheila Lee Prader to be on Zoom, but

without audio, so she was marked “absent” during roll call. Later in the meeting she

voted on Agenda Item No. 2 (PLN220090), but the Minutes do not report the time she

joined the meeting with audio. Staff will add that information into the Final Meeting

Minutes.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES

January 5, 2023 HRRB draft meeting minutes.

Judy MacClelland would like it to be clarified as to what Erik Lundquist is

referring to at the bottom of page 10 where it states Erik Lundquist

mentioning sections C1 and C2 while discussing HRRB quorum for item No. 1

on the January 5, 2023 agenda. Staff will make correction to clarify Mr.

Lundquist was referring to the HRRB Procedures/ Policies.

Belinda, also pointed out a change needed under section “Board Comments,

Requests and Referral”. It was Sheila Lee Prader who requested status on the

CLG report, not Belinda Taluban. Staff will make correction to enter the

correct HRRB member name.

It was moved by Kellie Morgantini and seconded by Belinda Taluban to

approve the January 5, 2023 Meeting Minutes with the corrections noted.

RESULT: Passed

MOVER: Kellie Morgantini

SECONDER: Belinda Taluban

AYES: Judy MacClelland, John Scourkes, Salvador Muñoz, Kellie

Morgantini, Belinda Taluban, Michael Bilich, Sheila Lee Prader

ABSENT: None.

January 12, 2023 HRRB draft special meeting minutes.

It was moved by Belinda Taluban and seconded by Salvador Muñoz to

approve the January 12, 2023 Meeting Minutes without any corrections.

RESULT: Passed

MOVER: Belinda Taluban

SECONDER: Salvador Muñoz

AYES: Judy MacClelland, John Scourkes, Salvador Muñoz, Kellie

Morgantini, Belinda Taluban, Michael Bilich, Sheila Lee Prader

ABSENT: None.

February 2, 2023 HRRB draft meeting minutes.

It was moved by Kellie Morgantini and seconded by Michael Bilich to approve

the February 2, 2023 Meeting Minutes without any corrections.

RESULT: Passed

MOVER: Kellie Morgantini

SECONDER: Michael Bilich

AYES: Judy MacClelland, John Scourkes, Salvador Muñoz, Kellie

Morgantini, Belinda Taluban, Michael Bilich, Sheila Lee Prader

ABSENT: None.

SCHEDULED MATTERS

None.

OTHER MATTERS

Discuss the 2021-2022 CLG Annual Report

The HRRB discussed the CLG report. Sheila Lee Prader’s hours of training

were omitted, and Salvador Muñoz indicated he also submitted training. Kellie

Morgantini suggested that any member who had training not reflected in the

report submit it to staff. Staff will update the CLG report and send the revised

version with missing training to state parks.

Sheila Lee Prader, referring to page 1 of the CLG report, Preservation Laws,

“the County is in the process of updating the certified ordinance”. Phil will

begin to have regular subcommittee meetings to work on the draft ordinance

update. Craig Spencer created a draft. Belinda asked who is on the Historic

Preservation Ordinance subcommittee: Phil Angelo confirmed the

subcommittee is composed of Kellie Morgantini and Judy MacClelland, and

Chair Scourkes. Chair Scourkes requested the draft ordinance emailed to all

the HRRB Members.

II.

Discussion of ways to inform property owners regarding potential historic resources

The HRRB discussed ways to inform property owners regarding potential historic

resources.

Chair Scourkes gave examples from past agenda items on how to be proactive about

this issue. Mentioned that a presentation/meeting with the Board of Realtors would

benefit the community to receive information.

Belinda Taluban gave examples of how she has had instances with realtors where she

has let them know the property is historic and the realtor does not want the potential

buyers to know. Some realtors do appreciate the information given. She’s received

comments from both ends of the spectrum. Agrees that education for the realtors will

be ideal.

Judy MacClelland suggested Chair Scourkes should reach out to the Monterey

County Board of Realtors to proceed with a presentation.

Kellie Morgantini remembers in the past having made a presentation to the Board of

Realtors. Suggested publishing in some of the local newspapers to give tips to

realtors/public.

Chair Scourkes inquired about a house on Carmel Beach with a big rock, having work

done and it has not come before the HRRB.

Kellie Morgantini asked staff how to implement these tasks, Phil commented how the

HRRB is tasked with assisting property owners regarding preservation.

Belinda Taluban would like the HRRB to help support local training in the area, open

to the public to provide more avenues of education in the matter.

Kellie Morgantini recalls there is a section in the CLG report that states providing for

adequate public participation in the local historic preservation program. She

confirmed on page 9, there is a section that can be filled in to include public outreach,

trainings, or publications taken by the HRRB. Chair Scourkes would like to make it a

goal for this year.

Sheila Lee Prader asked about a way to offer staff training for Planning staff at HCD.

Phil agreed this would be beneficial if the HRRB wants to put the training together

and have the staff attend or do it through CLG training and have the staff attend one

of those trainings. Sheila attended a boot camp that focused on preservation, she

wonders why the HRRB sees so few projects, maybe staff level needs more

information as to what should be referred to the HRRB. Phil said if a qualified

historian does not deem the property a historical resource the project does not get

sent to the HRRB for review.

Salvador Muñoz suggested there should be a red flag, any properties older than 50

years need to be referred to the HRRB. Phil confirmed there is currently a section on

the application request and if the property is 51 years old it almost always requires the

historical report.

Phil Angelo agrees a staff training would be very helpful to HCD Planning staff.

Kellie suggested using a scheduled weekly staff meeting time be used for the HRRB

training.

Sheila Lee Prader suggested more than one training over a period of time if the

training can only be done for one hour.

Chair Scourkes asked for status on Grants, maybe budget $50k from Planning.

Belinda Taluban mentioned asking her Supervisor regarding funding for HRRB.

Michael Bilich asked what the Grant money was being spent on.

HRRB will talk to their Supervisors regarding Grants.

BOARD COMMENTS, REQUEST AND REFERRALS

Chair Scourkes, Planning Commission rejected the bridge rail design. CalTrans needs

to come back with something that’s existing.

Chair Scourkes, updated the HRRB about the Walker House that was recently sold.

Chair Scourkes, mentioned California Preservation Foundation conference in San

Francisco in April coming up.

Sheila Lee Prader thinks Meg may be able to do training for staff. Phil will reach out

to her to see if she’d be available.

Sheila Lee Prader asked about the Carmel Beach property that Chair Scourkes

mentioned earlier in this meeting that is being heavily remodeled.

Belinda Taluban mentioned that if the applicant needs to go back to get a new permit

the project should need to be brought back to the HRRB.

Phil mentioned if something is flagged for a new project they will contact the project

planner. If something requires a design approval it goes back to Planning.

Salvador Muñoz wants to know if the County has guidelines for ADUs in historical

sites. Phil indicated the County does not.

DEPARTMENT UPDATE

None.

ADJOURNMENT

Meeting was adjourned by Chair Scourkes at 12:32 p.m.

NEXT REGULAR HRRB MEETING

April 6, 2023